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Fed rules force new state limits on fluke fishing

BY JENNIFER SMITH

jennifer.smith@newsday.com

March 26, 2009

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Recreational anglers seeking summer flounder in New York waters this year will face the most stringent restrictions yet on their catch and when they can fish.

The new regulations come as the state pursues a lawsuit challenging federal fisheries rules it says unfairly limit New York's share of summer flounder, a mainstay of Long Island's recreational fishing industry.

The 2009 limits announced Wednesday by the state Department of Environmental Conservation will curtail the recreational summer flounder season by about a third. The season will be split into two parts - from May 15 to June 15, and again from July 3 to August 17.

The new daily bag limit restricts anglers to two fish, down from four. Each fish must be at least 21 inches long, a half-inch increase from last year.

"The limits that we have set - with the input of the fishing community - are not ideal but are the best compromise for all of New York's anglers under the severe federal restrictions," DEC Commissioner Pete Grannis said in a statement.

The prospect of a monthlong shutdown at the height of the tourist season did not please Dennis Kanyuk, a Point Lookout captain who is also president of the industry group United Boatmen of New York. "A lot of charters were already booked," he said. "It really screws up three weeks of your calendar."

But Jim Gilmore, DEC's chief of marine resources, said the move was an effort to ensure all the region's charter and party boats could operate during at least a part of their usual season. Boats out of the North Fork catch much of their summer flounder - also known as fluke - in May, while those along the South Shore do bigger business in July and August, according to Gilmore and local captains.

"You're never going to please everybody; there aren't enough fish to go around," said Capt. Joe McBride of the Montauk Boatmen's & Captains Association.

The problem began in the early 1990s, when a federal plan to rebuild declining fluke numbers set quotas for each Atlantic state based on historical catch data.

New York, which gets about 17 percent of the coastwide recreational landings, contends the data are obsolete and favors neighboring states such as New Jersey, which got a larger share. New York anglers have repeatedly exceeded the recreational quotas in recent years, triggering penalties that force even more drastic restrictions on the fluke catch.

"It's causing us as managers to do some things we shouldn't be doing" to comply with federal regulations, Gilmore said. Among them: upping size limits so that more fish are discarded than kept, increasing fish mortality and also targeting the biggest, most fertile females.

"The bottom line is that antiquated and arbitrary federal rules have tied DEC's hands, and it's going to sink Long Island's fishing industry," Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said.



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The only fish this size are outside of the Moriches Inlet. 
Only a few years ago the size was 15 inches every year it goes up?  
This will hurt the local fishing station boat rentals! 
Fish is becoming unaffordable because of the size limits.
And The trollers are still out there scooping up everything.





  

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New budget would require license for sal****er fishing

BY BILL BLEYER

bill.bleyer@newsday.com

10:43 PM EDT, March 31, 2009

For the first time, sal****er anglers in New York will be required to obtain a fishing license under the new state budget.

The requirement would take effect Oct. 1 if the budget passes.

The fees for residents would be $10 a year, $8 for a week and $4 for a day. These are lower than proposed by the governor, and the money generated would go to marine conservation and regulation rather than the general fund under a compromise advocated by Assembly members and fishing groups.

Mandating licenses to fish in Long Island and New York City coastal waters and the Hudson River as far north as Troy is not a result of the state's need to generate more cash, although officials hope it will do that. It is primarily a response to a 2006 federal law designed to provide more information about the number of sal****er fishermen and what they catch.

The law allows states to set up their own license program if they don't want to be part of a federal system that begins next year. All of the coastal states except those from New Jersey to Maine have exercised the option. New York officials opted to go their own way because the license fees would be lower than anticipated federal fees and the money generated would remain in New York instead of going into the federal budget.

Gov. David A. Paterson's administration said the new licenses will generate $2.5 million a year, but the costs of administrating the program by the Department of Environmental Conservation will eat up an as-yet-uncalculated percentage of that.

Any license and fee is unpopular with local anglers and party boat owners. "It's just a foot in the door," said Bill Marinaccio, executive manager of the Freeport / Nassau Fishermen's Alliance. "Once they get started, they'll just up it. The money is going to pay for people to collect the tax and make sure people have a license, and that's just nuts."

Philip Curcio, a Melville attorney who represents party boat owners, added, "We feel a charge of any amount, especially with the industry being in such distress already with the regulations we face, is going to have a detrimental effect on whether people go fishing. The original proposals by the governor's office were extremely distressing. The Assembly counterproposal is certainly more palatable."

He said a provision in the compromise to establish a $400 annual license for a party boat would be better than the original idea of charging individual anglers every time they went out.

Assemb. Robert Sweeney (D-Lindenhurst), chairman of the Environmental Conservation Committee, said, "The cost is well below the charge the federal government indicated it would impose. All of the funds collected will go to protect and preserve sal****er fisheries."



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