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Westhampton Beach won’t participate in high school centralization study

By Hallie D. Martin
Sep 16, 09 3:51 PM  
 

 

The Westhampton Beach School Board announced Monday night that it will not participate in a study with its sending districts, essentially killing the possibility of creating a centralized high school district in Westhampton Beach.

Superintendant Lynn Schwartz told the board during its meeting on September 14 that Westhampton Beach will not benefit from a centralized high school district, which would have made attendance at Westhampton Beach High School mandatory for East Moriches, Remsenburg/Speonk, Quogue and East Quogue students.

“There is no strong reason at all to centralize,” Mr. Schwartz said. “If that’s the case, I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to enter into a feasibility study.”

The study would have examined the benefits, if any, of making Westhampton Beach High School a centralized district and the only high school option for students attending the Remsenburg/Speonk, East Moriches, Quogue and East Quogue school districts. Most of those students now attend Westhampton Beach High School on a tuition basis.

The Westhampton Beach School Board did not vote on a formal resolution on Monday night. If they had agreed to the study, Westhampton Beach and four of its five sending districts would have had to foot the bill of the study, which was expected to have cost between $50,000 and $100,000 to complete.

“There’s a sense that there is no support for passing a resolution,” said Jim Hulme, the vice president of the Westhampton Beach School Board, on Monday night.

The Remsenburg/Speonk, Quogue, East Quogue and East Moriches school boards all adopted similar resolutions over the summer calling for the study. The Tuckahoe School District, the fifth district that sends some of its students to Westhampton Beach High School, did not have to sign off on the resolution for the study. Tuckahoe Superintendant Linda Rozzi said in July that her district still wants to give its students the option of attending Westhampton Beach or Southampton high schools.

Members of the Westhampton Beach School Board spent the summer examining the pros and cons of a centralized high school district for Westhampton Beach, Mr. Schwartz said. Their study focused on three areas: cost, state aid and the richness of programs offered.

Westhampton Beach would not benefit financially from a centralized high school district, Mr. Schwartz said, noting that the district would have to pay a “disproportionate amount” in taxes compared to the number of students it would send to the centralized high school. Currently, about 25 percent of the students attending Westhampton Beach High School live in the Westhampton Beach School District, according to Mr. Schwartz. That means that approximately 75 percent of high school students come from one of the five sending districts.

Sending districts now pay the Westhampton Beach School District about $18,000 per student, per year, in tuition fees. Last year, Westhampton Beach collected approximately $18.7 million in tuition payments from its sending districts.

A centralized high school district, if established, would have created a separate “high school tax.” For example, those living in East Quogue, under a centralized high school district, would pay taxes to both the East Quogue Elementary School and the centralized high school. Today, a portion of school property taxes paid by East Quogue homeowners goes to Westhampton Beach in the form of tuition to educate the hamlet’s middle and high school age students.

Centralized high schools are also eligible to receive state aid, but that aid is not enough to offset projected tax increases for property owners in Westhampton Beach under a centralized district, according to Mr. Schwartz.

“Even in year one, we found that the increased aid for the centralized entity would not offset the increased tax burden to our district,” he said. “It would be even more dramatic as the years went by.”

The Eastport South Manor School District, a centralized high school district, received a significant amount of state funding to build a new high school as part of its merger agreement. Westhampton Beach, however, would not need that kind of state building aid because there would be no need for such an expansion project.

“We have a wonderful campus now,” Mr. Schwartz said, referring to the recently finished wing at the high school. “A centralized high school would only increase the population by 75 to 100 kids.”

Lastly, the Westhampton Beach School Board examined if a centralized high school district would offer richer programing for students. Mr. Schwartz said the high school already has a diverse curriculum.

“That’s why kids come to our school,” he said. “We feel that we are operating as a de-facto centralized school.”

Westhampton Beach won’t participate in high school centralization study

By Hallie D. Martin
Sep 16, 09 3:51 PM  
 
Mr. Schwartz noted that Westhampton Beach now receives virtually all the students attending Remsenburg/Speonk Elementary School. Quogue and East Quogue send their students exclusively to the Westhampton Beach High School, while the majority of East Moriches students choose to attend Westhampton Beach.

Remsenburg/Speonk students can now choose between Eastport South Manor and Westhampton Beach high schools, while East Moriches students can choose between Eastport South Manor, Center Moriches and Westhampton Beach high schools.

On Monday night, members of the Westhampton Beach School Board appeared to be united in that centralization would not benefit their district.

“The math is simple,” said Beecher Halsey, a board member.

Last year, New York State Senator Kenneth LaValle asked Westhampton Beach and its sending districts to examine the idea of creating a centralized high school district. The main stipulation was that all of the districts would have to agree to the study and share its costs.

Sen. LaValle could not be reached for a comment on Tuesday regarding the decision made by Westhampton Beach not to participate in the study. Previously, the senator stated that all five districts need to agree to participate for the study to move forward.

Mr. Schwartz noted that the state would not have helped pay for the proposed study.

“So, we just kind of did our own study and saved [that money],” said Westhampton Beach School Board member Dr. Gregory Frost.

Officials representing the sending districts said Tuesday that they understand why Westhampton Beach opted against the study. Earlier, those same individuals said that the potential savings offered by a centralized high school district fueled their decision to help pay for the study.

“I’m sure they have the district’s best interest at heart,” said Remsenburg/Speonk Superintendent Katherine Salomone.

Richard Benson, the superintendent of the Quogue School District, said he wasn’t surprised to learn that the study was killed by Westhampton Beach. “I know they looked at a lot of the factors,” he said.

Charles Russo, the superintendent of the East Moriches School District, agreed with that assessment, noting that all of the districts had to agree to the study for it to happen.

“If it’s not in the interest of all parties at hand, it’s not going to work anyway,” he said.

The idea of creating a centralized high school district is not a new one. Last year, Sen. LaValle secured $50,000 in state funding for another study that examined the feasibility and benefits of merging the East Moriches and Center Moriches school districts. East Moriches backed out of the study at the last minute.

If Center Moriches and East Moriches had merged, East Moriches students would have had to attend Center Moriches High School. Right now, they also have the option of attending Eastport South Manor or Westhampton Beach high schools.

 



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Easy Moriches cut off their noses to spite their face.

Looks like they should have gone through the merger with Center Moriches afterall. Wonder if Center Moriches will welcome them now after what happened ?confuse

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hmmmmm..........or elsewhere!

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HAHAHA  Westhampton style payback !
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Districts may sue for refund of tuition

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East Moriches Superintendent of Schools Dr. Charles T. Russo said the district may file a lawsuit against Westhampton Beach seeking a refund of $175,000 for 2007-08 school year tuition fees. BRYAN FINLAYSON

Three area school districts that send students to Westhampton Beach High School might join together to sue the Westhampton Beach School District for charging too much in tuition payments for the 2007-08 school year



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Does this mean they may not merge with remsenberg or speonk as well ?

Dopes were strung along by WHB only to be slapped in the face. See  the grass was greener in Center Moriches.

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HaHaHaHaHaHa.......Emo has been played....again!   Now you look even more ridiculous, if that is possible!

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Charles Russo, the superintendent of the East Moriches School District, agreed with that assessment, noting that all of the districts had to agree to the study for it to happen.

“If it’s not in the interest of all parties at hand, it’s not going to work anyway,” he said.



IF ONLY HE REALIZED THIS    B E F O R E
they agreed to do the Merger Study with CM !



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I can't wait to see Gary put lipstick on this pig!

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Don't forget the pink party dress and parasol!

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WestHampton Beach HS-ranked #22 Long Island School 69%, Adv/Regents Diploma

Center Moriches HS-ranked #100 Long Island School



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Glenn predicted this a year ago, now all the jockeying is over and East Moriches is right back where they started, paying higher tuition with no options left.

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Emo tax dollars at work.....you just keep paying to support WHB's program, they will eventually bankrupt EMO. You look like such a bunch of fools. You are nothing but a cash cow to them, how many times do they have to tell you?

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Well now ,  ain't this a kick in the teeth for the EM BOE now.  Who is getting the last laugh now ?  Center Moriches  lmao !!
Their WHB feeble minds did them in.  They had a sure thing with CM and they blew it. Face it EM,  You will never be hamptonites. You were played like a game of slap jack.

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WestHampton Beach HS-ranked #22 Long Island School 69%, Adv/Regents Diploma

Center Moriches HS-ranked #100 Long Island School
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Why are you bragging about the whb school? It is not yours and it never will be apparently.....emo is only good enough to pay their bills, not be a part of it.

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what rank was east moriches at ?

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WestHampton Beach HS-ranked #22 Long Island School 69%, Adv/Regents Diploma

Center Moriches HS-ranked #100 Long Island School



Please post your source and what was the ranking for East Moriches so we can compare notes.

 



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EM should study the "problems" at WHB including drug arrests, DWI's and how many have been to rehab!

Puleeze!  wasn't the there an article recently about their graduation requirements being a little lax???



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Publication: The Southampton Press

Math requirements will increase for Westhampton Beach High School students

By Hallie
 

 

Incoming Westhampton Beach High School freshmen will have to take an additional year of math in order to graduate if the Westhampton Beach Board of Education approves the curriculum change next month.

During their meeting on Monday night, August 17, board members embraced changing the graduation requirements, but did not pass a resolution. Instead, they asked School Superintendent Lynn Schwartz and Westhampton Beach High School Principal Christopher Herr for more details on the sequence and availability of math classes.

A vote on a resolution will take place during the board’s September 14 meeting, said Mr. Schwartz.

“The board wants to make sure we have appropriate planning in place to meet the needs of all students,” he said.

The change, if adopted as planned, will affect students graduating in 2013.

Mr. Schwartz and Mr. Herr want to change the graduation requirements so high school students do not fall behind other students in their math studies.

“We want to continue to challenge students and keep them competitive,” Mr. Herr said.

If the policy is adopted, students will be able choose from five or six courses, like calculus, Advanced Placement statistics or applied mathematics, to fulfill the third-year requirement, Mr. Schwartz said.

All students in New York State must take nine regents exams, three of which must be in math, to receive an advanced regents diploma, Mr. Schwartz said. In Westhampton Beach, the algebra regents exams are taken in eighth grade, the geometry regents in ninth grade, and the final regents exam, algebra II and trigonometry, are taken in 10th grade. Last year, the 2008-09 school year, was the pilot year for that schedule.

There are a number of math electives offered in high school after the two regents courses are satisfied after sophomore year. Students, however, were not previously required to take them.

School Board members are in favor of the changes because they want Westhampton Beach students to exceed New York State regents requirements so they are “ready to compete” after high school, Mr. Schwartz said.

“We lost the commitment to math and science,” said School Board Vice President James Hulme. “We need to renew that commitment.”

Board members said they are concerned that the United States is lagging behind other countries in both math and science.

Fourth-graders in the United States rank 11th out of 36 countries in math scores, and eighth-graders rank ninth out of 48 countries in the same category, according to a 2007 Trends in International Math and Science Study. Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan and Singapore all rank higher than the United States, according to the study.

“We are not going to get ahead of the Chinese by teaching kids applied math,” said Mr. Hulme, adding that school districts have to pay attention to courses so their students can be competitive. “We are going to get ahead of the Chinese by teaching our kids calculus.”

On Monday night, board members appeared to be in favor of adding an extra year of math to the district’s graduation requirements, starting with this year’s freshman class.

“We love the idea of an extra year of high school math,” said School Board President Aram Terchunian.

Board members also expressed concern over the proposed changes and the math course options now available to high school students. Halsey Stevens, a board member, asked if there would be alternatives for students who may qualify to take calculus, but may be “burned out.”

Other members were concerned that students who may not have done as well as other students in math would be forced to take a course that is too hard for them.

“Not everybody does calculus,” Mr. Terchunian said.

There are alternative courses, like applied math, that those students could take to satisfy the requirement, said Tom Short, the director of math, science and technology for the Westhampton Beach School District.

However, some board members were equally concerned that students who showed the ability to take challenging courses like calculus would opt into an easier course.

Algebra will always be available to students who need to take that course in the ninth grade, Mr. Short said. The East Moriches School District, which does not send its students to Westhampton Beach Middle School, is “on board” with teaching algebra to eighth-graders, Mr. Schwartz said.

Board members also mentioned adding an additional high school level science class to graduation requirements. No action was taken on that proposal Monday night.

Currently, high school students have to take two years of science. The board briefly flirted with the idea this week of increasing that requirement to three classes.

The board will likely revisit that idea during the 2011-12 school year, when earth science, which is usually taught in the ninth grade, is made an eighth-grade requirement, Mr. Schwartz said.



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DOH wrote:

Charles Russo, the superintendent of the East Moriches School District, agreed with that assessment, noting that all of the districts had to agree to the study for it to happen.

“If it’s not in the interest of all parties at hand, it’s not going to work anyway,” he said.



IF ONLY HE REALIZED THIS    B E F O R E
they agreed to do the Merger Study with CM !


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this article from July 09



Study of centralized high school gaining traction
  

 

 

If the plan is ever approved, Westhampton Beach would be the only centralized high school in Suffolk County, according to Mr. LaValle. He explained that there are a few centralized high schools in Nassau County, including the Sewanhaka and the Bellmore-Merrick central high school districts.

The process of making a centralized high school district would take about three years, Mr. LaValle estimated. The study to determine whether or not centralization is feasible, let alone beneficial to all districts, would take about 18 months to finish, he said. The school districts would have to find a consultant to complete the study and agree to share its cost, which is unknown at this time.

The East Quogue and Quogue school boards last month passed resolutions in support of the study, while the East Moriches and Remsenburg/Speonk school boards approved similar resolutions this past week.

“We want to find out how centralization would change the tax base,” Remsenburg/Speonk School Superintendent Dr. Kathy Salomone said.

The tax rate in the Remsenburg/Speonk School District is projected to be $4.52 per $1,000 for the 2009-2010 school year. The tax rate in the Westhampton Beach School District is projected to be about $5.15 per $1,000 next year.

Tuckahoe School Board President Robert Grisnik said last week that members of his board were never formally informed about the proposed study or the idea of creating a centralized high school district. “We’ve received no word of it,” said Mr. Grisnik, who declined to comment further.

This week, Tuckahoe District Clerk Linda Rozzi wrote in an e-mail that her district does not intend to support the study, explaining that it wants to continue to offer its students the option of attending either Westhampton Beach or Southampton high school. Mr. LaValle said Wednesday that Tuckahoe does not need to sign off on the study for it to move forward.

Last year, the East Moriches and Center Moriches school districts, using some $50,000 in state funds, conducted a study that examined the feasibility of merging with one another. But East Moriches school officials balked at the idea of conducting a straw poll—a non-binding vote that was intended to gauge the interest of taxpayers in Center Moriches and East Moriches—which all but killed merger talks between the two school districts. East Moriches officials charged that the study was flawed. If the merger had been completed, high school-age students in East Moriches would no longer have the option of attending either Eastport South Manor or Westhampton Beach high school.

Quogue School Superintendent Richard Benson said board members agreed to participate in the study last month, and that they will wait until its completion to decide whether to support a centralized high school district.

Mr. Schwartz, the superintendent of the Westhampton Beach School District, said his main concern is whether centralization would financially benefit taxpayers in his district.

“We are presently operating almost like a central high school because we have the opportunity to educate kids from sending districts,” Mr. Schwartz said. “In Westhampton Beach, the strong belief is that centralization has to have a financial benefit.”

Tuition payments from its five sending districts composed about 40 percent, or some $18.7 million, of Westhampton Beach’s $46.6 million operating budget for the 2008-2009 school year. Currently, all of the sending districts pay around $18,000 for each student attending either the middle or high school in Westhampton Beach. But that figure could change due to a recent modification made by the New York State Board of Regents to the Seneca Falls formula, a universal calculation that determines the tuition rate for all sending districts across the state.

Westhampton Beach recently sued the state over the change to the formula, stating that the modification was done illegally. Officials have said the change will cost Westhampton Beach some $600,000 a year in tuition income.

The sending districts would no longer have to pay tuition if a centralized high school district was created in Westhampton Beach. Instead, as Mr. Terchunian explained, residents of those districts would pay taxes to both their elementary school and the centralized high school districts.

Mr. Schwartz said that if centralization did occur, the tax burden for the Westhampton Beach School District could increase—a situation that would make board members reluctant to approve such a proposal.

“Westhampton Beach is fortunate to receive tuition because it offsets the tax levy on residents,” Mr. Schwartz said. “If we lost tuition dollars without a significant increase in state aid, the tax burden would fall onto the community.”


 



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EMBOE just doesn't get it! wrote:

DOH wrote:

 

Charles Russo, the superintendent of the East Moriches School District, agreed with that assessment, noting that all of the districts had to agree to the study for it to happen.

“If it’s not in the interest of all parties at hand, it’s not going to work anyway,” he said.



IF ONLY HE REALIZED THIS    B E F O R E
they agreed to do the Merger Study with CM !


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this article from July 09



Study of centralized high school gaining traction
  

 

 

If the plan is ever approved, Westhampton Beach would be the only centralized high school in Suffolk County, according to Mr. LaValle. He explained that there are a few centralized high schools in Nassau County, including the Sewanhaka and the Bellmore-Merrick central high school districts.

The process of making a centralized high school district would take about three years, Mr. LaValle estimated. The study to determine whether or not centralization is feasible, let alone beneficial to all districts, would take about 18 months to finish, he said. The school districts would have to find a consultant to complete the study and agree to share its cost, which is unknown at this time.

The East Quogue and Quogue school boards last month passed resolutions in support of the study, while the East Moriches and Remsenburg/Speonk school boards approved similar resolutions this past week.

“We want to find out how centralization would change the tax base,” Remsenburg/Speonk School Superintendent Dr. Kathy Salomone said.

The tax rate in the Remsenburg/Speonk School District is projected to be $4.52 per $1,000 for the 2009-2010 school year. The tax rate in the Westhampton Beach School District is projected to be about $5.15 per $1,000 next year.

Tuckahoe School Board President Robert Grisnik said last week that members of his board were never formally informed about the proposed study or the idea of creating a centralized high school district. “We’ve received no word of it,” said Mr. Grisnik, who declined to comment further.

This week, Tuckahoe District Clerk Linda Rozzi wrote in an e-mail that her district does not intend to support the study, explaining that it wants to continue to offer its students the option of attending either Westhampton Beach or Southampton high school. Mr. LaValle said Wednesday that Tuckahoe does not need to sign off on the study for it to move forward.

Last year, the East Moriches and Center Moriches school districts, using some $50,000 in state funds, conducted a study that examined the feasibility of merging with one another. But East Moriches school officials balked at the idea of conducting a straw poll—a non-binding vote that was intended to gauge the interest of taxpayers in Center Moriches and East Moriches—which all but killed merger talks between the two school districts. East Moriches officials charged that the study was flawed. If the merger had been completed, high school-age students in East Moriches would no longer have the option of attending either Eastport South Manor or Westhampton Beach high school.

Quogue School Superintendent Richard Benson said board members agreed to participate in the study last month, and that they will wait until its completion to decide whether to support a centralized high school district.

Mr. Schwartz, the superintendent of the Westhampton Beach School District, said his main concern is whether centralization would financially benefit taxpayers in his district.

“We are presently operating almost like a central high school because we have the opportunity to educate kids from sending districts,” Mr. Schwartz said. “In Westhampton Beach, the strong belief is that centralization has to have a financial benefit.”

Tuition payments from its five sending districts composed about 40 percent, or some $18.7 million, of Westhampton Beach’s $46.6 million operating budget for the 2008-2009 school year. Currently, all of the sending districts pay around $18,000 for each student attending either the middle or high school in Westhampton Beach. But that figure could change due to a recent modification made by the New York State Board of Regents to the Seneca Falls formula, a universal calculation that determines the tuition rate for all sending districts across the state.

Westhampton Beach recently sued the state over the change to the formula, stating that the modification was done illegally. Officials have said the change will cost Westhampton Beach some $600,000 a year in tuition income.

The sending districts would no longer have to pay tuition if a centralized high school district was created in Westhampton Beach. Instead, as Mr. Terchunian explained, residents of those districts would pay taxes to both their elementary school and the centralized high school districts.

Mr. Schwartz said that if centralization did occur, the tax burden for the Westhampton Beach School District could increase—a situation that would make board members reluctant to approve such a proposal.

“Westhampton Beach is fortunate to receive tuition because it offsets the tax levy on residents,” Mr. Schwartz said. “If we lost tuition dollars without a significant increase in state aid, the tax burden would fall onto the community.”


 



The study with WHB didn't work out...East Moriches students still  have the option of attending 3 high schools. We "rent" not own. It's been that way for a long time.

Most residents moved here for the good K-8 program and the choice of high schools.  
   
ESM high school offers more programs and is the lowest cost of the three high schools. The kids in our development play in the ESM little league and the Lady Sharks. 




 



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